00:54.8
Basta sa kanyang talk show, Tony Talks.
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At sila ay nagkaroon ng pag-uusap nitong si Salome Salvi at Tony Gonzaga.
01:10.4
Okay, so, yan, ganda ng studio ni Tony, diba?
01:14.7
And, well, it started, started, well, the conversation went well.
01:26.2
Salome was visibly, medyo,
01:29.5
hindi mo, I don't know if it's anxious, pero,
01:32.8
ito baga, parang,
01:34.4
I'm sure she was excited, excited siyang makapag-usap,
01:38.6
and, medyo, kabaado siguro, yun, mas tama.
01:42.8
Kabaado siya nung,
01:44.4
nagkita sila ni Tony Gonzaga, for whatever reason.
01:55.1
huwag na natin i-play kasi baka maka-copyright lang tayo eh.
01:58.5
So, Tony Gonzaga, medyo interesting sa akin to.
02:02.7
Kasi, of course, we know Salome Salvi as an adult performer,
02:12.7
adult film performer, porn star.
02:16.2
So, itong si Tony Gonzaga naman ay kabaliktaran ni Salome.
02:25.4
Kasi, at least, dun sa pinapakita,
02:28.5
nakikita niya na si Tony Gonzaga ay isang matimtimang berhen.
02:36.2
Presumably, na first time,
02:43.4
I have no reason to not believe her,
02:47.6
pero I think she was raised in a Christian family,
02:55.2
and yung parents niya ay,
03:00.2
mahigpit sa kanila,
03:01.2
sa kanilang mag-utol.
03:03.0
Kumbaga, hindi sila basta-basta nakakagimi,
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kahit matandaan na sila,
03:06.5
kahit mayamat na sila,
03:11.6
at sinusunod pa rin nila yung mga magulang nila,
03:16.2
kasama yung utol niya ni Alex Gonzaga.
03:19.2
And, I suppose we can assume na
03:22.5
she lost her virginity
03:25.5
on her wedding night.
03:33.2
so, well, ang point lang siguro is
03:35.1
very conservative
03:37.2
itong si Tony Gonzaga.
03:39.8
And, after watching the video,
03:50.5
some of Salome Saga's belief
03:55.2
and, kumbaga, parang
03:58.5
I suppose you can
04:06.6
yung pagka-opposite
04:07.7
ng kanilang experiences
04:11.3
regarding relationships,
04:12.8
regarding family,
04:15.9
Although, Tony Gonzaga is a very good
04:20.3
and sanay na sanay naman siyang gawin yun,
04:25.9
itong Tony Talks is a heavily-edited
04:34.5
So, I'm sure madami silang in-edit out
04:37.5
and a very well-polished conversation.
04:42.0
talagang curated yung mga nilabas nila.
04:47.9
Who knows how long
04:49.2
the actual talk really went,
04:59.3
Madami naman siyang
05:00.2
nakuha ang information from Salome
05:09.4
sa mga tanong ni Tony,
05:15.7
very articulately,
05:20.9
she carried herself well.
05:31.1
na isa pala siyang
05:34.3
Graduate pala siya sa UP.
05:36.9
Nag-FA pala siya doon.
05:46.7
the things na parang
05:50.5
doon sa mga taong
05:55.0
bakit ka nandyan,
05:58.9
Anong nangyari sa'yo?
06:01.6
It adds another layer
06:17.1
okay naman yung pagka,
06:31.2
in this interview.
06:39.4
from this interview
06:40.5
about Salome Salvi
06:44.4
kung baka nasabi na niya
06:46.0
sa ibang interviews niya.
06:48.3
ngayon ko lang nalaman yung,
06:49.5
yung mga sinabi niya dito
06:51.7
kasi hindi naman ako
06:53.2
interviews ni Salome.
07:03.3
about her family,
07:16.5
the sexual assault
07:19.0
that happened to her.
07:22.9
at a very young age
07:33.8
na nag-confide sa akin
07:35.3
na they were victimized
07:41.3
hindi mo maisip-isip
07:45.9
sa kanilang pagkatao
07:47.2
especially to a woman
07:51.5
may mga na-molestya.
08:11.9
ng mga ganun klaseng,
08:15.0
from different people.
08:29.4
who are not familiar,
08:37.6
Yung mga sinasabi natin,
08:40.3
Yung tunay na malandi,
08:43.3
hindi ko alam kung anong
08:46.4
kasi promiscuous,
08:47.4
medyo hindi sanay
08:50.1
mga common na Pinoy
08:51.8
dun sa word na yun, eh.
08:53.0
Yung malandi kasi,
08:55.8
maaaring ibig sabihin nun.
09:08.6
pag-usapan ang sex life nila,
09:18.3
they sleep around,
09:22.8
may madami silang boyfriend,
09:25.8
naikipaglandian sila sa mga,
09:30.3
medyo madumi yung mga bunganga,
09:35.8
hindi ko naman sinasabing lahat,
09:38.3
kasi iba't ibang klase
09:40.8
I'm not gonna generalize,
09:44.8
yung, especially,
09:45.8
yung mga napupunta sa sex work,
09:48.8
siguro yun ang pinakamatinding,
09:51.8
pinakamatinding qualifier,
09:53.8
yung mga napupunta sa,
09:59.8
any kind of sex work,
10:09.8
sexual assault victims,
10:10.8
at one point in their lives,
10:14.8
nung bata pa sila,
10:21.8
have caused them to,
10:26.8
this is according to,
10:28.8
dun sa isang nabasa ko na libro,
10:31.8
kasi ang nangyari is,
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pag nangyari sa babae yun,
10:47.8
na molest siya ka,
10:50.8
you got assaulted,
10:53.8
you can't figure out,
10:55.8
hindi mo maisip kung anong nangyari sa'yo,
11:05.8
10 years old ka na,
11:18.8
yung helplessness,
11:19.8
nung pagiging bata mo,
11:21.8
mararanasan mo na yun,
11:25.8
I shouldn't speculate kung anong nararamdaman nila,
11:29.8
hindi ko naman na,
11:41.8
nung experience na yun,
11:47.8
yung sinabi nung libro na nabasa ko was,
11:55.8
a very low value on sex,
12:00.8
yung sex is just,
12:08.8
parang yun ang pinakamalaking regalo na pwede nilang,
12:11.8
ibigay sa partner nila,
12:12.8
and pipiliin nila,
12:14.8
yung pagbibigyan nun,
12:16.8
importante yun eh,
12:21.8
di mo ibibigay yun,
12:23.8
sa kung kani-kanina lang,
12:31.8
you gonna choose,
12:32.8
very special people,
12:34.8
to willingly give it,
12:37.8
yun ang value ng sex,
12:57.8
syempre ang hirap tanggapin nun,
13:00.8
imagine mga na-rape ka,
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tapos wala kang nagawa,
13:03.8
hindi ka nakalaban,
13:06.8
further traumatized pa,
13:09.8
hindi pinaniwalaan,
13:10.8
na hindi pinaniwalaan ng magulang,
13:14.8
yung isang kwento ni Salome dito,
13:18.8
yung namolesta sa kanya,
13:20.8
kainuman pa nung ano,
13:21.8
kainuman pa nung,
13:26.8
pupunta pa sa bahay nila,
13:29.8
makipag-party sa kanila doon,
13:33.8
hindi pa siya pinaniwalaan,
13:34.8
imagination niya lang daw,
13:37.8
how are you gonna,
13:41.8
let's say you're a teenager,
13:43.8
and you experience that,
13:45.8
how do you make sense,
13:51.8
kung teenager ka,
13:52.8
nakatira ka lang doon sa bahay nung,
14:00.8
hindi ka pinapaniwalaan,
14:02.8
kinakampiyan pa yung,
14:03.8
ng assault sa'yo,
14:05.8
and that's really a fucked up,
14:08.8
yung mga kwento ni Salome,
14:19.8
it makes sense now,
14:20.8
it makes sense now that,
14:24.8
napadpad siya sa,
14:26.8
sa ganitong klase ng gawain,
14:31.8
I'm not in any position to judge,
14:35.8
like I always say,
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walang masamang magkomento,
14:43.8
walang masamang magkomento,
14:52.8
thoughts about issues,
14:59.8
opinions should be allowed,
15:02.8
we shouldn't cherry pick,
15:05.8
if you hear a bad opinion,
15:06.8
then you can challenge it,
15:09.8
if you hear a good opinion,
15:14.8
challenge it as well,
15:21.8
kung ano yung pinaka,
15:23.8
nagme-make sense sayo,
15:30.8
very tricky kasi yung ano eh,
15:37.8
katulad ni Salome na,
15:46.8
has presented herself,
15:48.8
as she possibly can,
16:05.8
know what she looks like,
16:16.8
nakakaano yun eh,
16:24.8
for the most part,
16:25.8
a lot of the women,
16:28.8
involved sa sex work,
16:35.8
they try to hide the fact,
16:40.8
as much as possible,
16:43.8
napakalaking sikreto nila yun,
16:49.8
proud na proud pa siya,
16:59.8
I don't know how to feel about that,
17:07.8
sinasabi nila na,
17:11.8
sarado daw ang utak ng mga Pilipino,
17:13.8
pagdating sa sex,
17:30.8
as a nation ang tinutukoy ko ah,
17:34.8
not as individuals,
17:37.8
makakakita ka ng individuals dyan,
17:44.8
tutuligsain talaga,
17:46.8
si Salome Salvi at,
17:48.8
mga katulad niya,
17:55.8
Salome Salvi is already,
18:03.8
Basta pala namang nagre-reklamo,
18:06.8
nagre-reklamo eh,
18:15.8
walang nagre-reklamo,
18:28.8
traditional sa Pilipinas,
18:38.8
Hindi lang dito sa Pilipinas,
18:42.8
kahit nga sa ibang bansa,
18:43.8
you would still be,
18:51.8
here's Salome Salvi,
19:01.8
nasa mainstream media,
19:11.8
chineck ko yung IMDB ni Salome Salvi,
19:18.8
nagkaroon pa siya ng TV series,
19:21.8
hindi ko alam kung ano yan.
19:25.8
she had a few mu,
19:33.8
alam ko Viva Max to,
19:48.8
tinatanggap ng mga Pilipino.
19:51.8
doon na lang muna tayo.
19:52.8
Tanggap ng mga Pilipino si Salome Salvi,
19:55.8
na porn star siya.
19:58.8
porn star pa rin siya hanggang ngayon.
20:01.8
lumalabas siya sa TV.
20:11.8
makited ang utak ng Pilip,
20:15.8
I'd beg to disagree.
20:17.8
kung makited talaga ang Pilipino,
20:20.8
yung mga katulad ni Salome.
20:26.8
she would still get,
20:28.8
mga bastos na comments,
20:30.8
May mga ganun pa rin.
20:33.8
may iwasan yun talaga.
20:42.8
Pag nataraan ni Salome,
20:50.8
mga kwento yun ng mga porn stars,
20:55.8
kahit hindi nagre-retire.
20:58.8
ang weird kay Salome,
21:00.8
nasa mainstream na siya,
21:02.8
nagpo-porn pa rin siya.
21:08.8
get into the mainstream,
21:14.8
stop doing porn already?
21:34.8
one of the most famous porn stars
21:39.8
especially in Asia,
21:43.8
during her heyday.
21:47.8
pumunta siya dito sa Pilipinas.
21:49.8
She was embraced.
21:50.8
Mahal na mahal siya ng mga Pilipino.
21:56.8
tumira pa nga siya dito eh.
21:57.8
Nagka-business pa nga siya dito.
22:01.8
nagka-boyfriend siya ng Pilipino.
22:03.8
Ewan ko kung sila pa rin.
22:07.8
as far as I know,
22:08.8
retired na siya noon.
22:10.8
Retired na si Maria Ozawa.
22:23.8
I'm sure na may bumabastos pa rin kay Maria Ozawa.
22:29.8
Nagkaroon pa ng pelikula si Maria Ozawa dati.
22:46.8
Pero niya baga sa Father Club u eh,
22:47.8
bakit mae porn star jan.
22:52.8
retired na siya sa porn
22:55.8
Pero itong si Salome,
22:57.8
diba rin siya nangire-retire?
22:58.8
Sinabi niya nga dito,
22:59.8
sinabi niya nga sa interview,
23:00.8
wala siyang balak mag-ano eh.
23:07.1
Ewan ko yung pingko na nakuha.
23:11.4
Hindi ko man siya pinag-retire, no?
23:14.0
I just wanna make myself clear
23:17.1
I'm not trying to tell her what to do
23:24.9
Ano bang nangyayari dito
23:27.1
What are the implications of
23:31.3
Having an active porn star in mainstream
23:37.8
Mainstream television
23:41.9
National television
23:46.4
Don't you find that weird?
23:51.9
Kasi tinanggap na nga siya eh
23:55.4
Tinanggap na nga siya sa mainstream eh
23:57.0
Hindi ba pwedeng tumigil ka na mag-porn?
24:00.2
Do you really want to have your cake
24:04.2
Kasi ganun yan eh
24:05.6
Parang you wanna have
24:12.4
Nandyan na yung cake
24:13.4
Kasi ang maganda yung cake
24:18.2
Pero pag kinain mo na yun
24:19.8
Hindi na maganda yung itsura
24:29.1
Pag kinain mo yun
24:37.8
That is one question that
24:40.8
The Filipino society
24:48.0
Why is that question important?
24:51.5
It makes you question
24:56.6
Kung ano ba talagang kultura
24:59.8
Kasi sinasabi lagi nila
25:01.2
Makiti daw ang utak ng mga Pilipino
25:07.4
Okay lang sa atin
25:14.4
Not exactly just Salome Salvi
25:17.4
An active porn star
25:19.3
On national television
25:22.2
Na mapapanood ng mga bata
25:24.0
Mapapanood ng lahat
25:31.0
Kasi may dami ng batang nakapanood dyan
25:32.9
Kasi libre naman ng internet eh
25:36.5
Or at least for the most part
25:37.9
O libre yung access ng
25:39.3
Yung pag-access ng
25:41.6
Let's say porn hub
25:49.5
Nagpapasahan ng mga links
26:10.5
We don't know what
26:12.9
Filipino culture is
26:24.2
Hindi dapat mangyari
26:30.3
Yung sinasabi ng kultura natin
26:35.2
Dapat sa kultura natin
26:36.3
Hindi pwede si Salome Salvi eh
26:38.4
Pero nandyan siya
26:41.2
Katulad ni Salome Salvi
26:48.7
Pinaproblema ko sa buhay
27:00.5
Generalized statements
27:07.1
Ganyan mga Pilipino
27:09.0
Katulad nung sinabi niya
27:18.9
Parang napag-iiwanan tayo
27:21.2
Hindi tayo progresibo
27:26.7
Okay lang sa atin
27:34.4
Damang pa nga tayo
27:44.6
Yun ang dilema ko
27:46.0
Isa pang interesting na
27:50.4
Sinabi dito ni Salome
28:01.0
Kasi there's this
28:04.1
A narcissistic mother
28:07.0
Pag-narcissist yung nanay mo
28:09.9
Especially if you are
28:13.3
To their daughters
28:17.4
They could really
28:18.8
They could really
28:32.4
Hindi mabibigyan ng
28:38.7
Very little options
28:45.3
Nakaka-apekto talaga
28:50.7
For the rest of their lives
28:54.4
Narcissistic mother
29:04.9
Narcissistic mother
29:07.0
She doesn't respect
29:11.1
As an extension of herself
29:14.9
And your siblings
29:15.8
Against each other
29:17.4
She may manipulate you
29:19.7
Into feigning illness
29:22.1
Nagsasakit sakitan
29:25.3
Nagsasakit sakitan
29:29.6
She sets unrealistic
29:39.6
With maintaining appearances
29:45.3
She ignores your needs
29:49.6
Competes with you
29:53.7
Sa'yo yung nanay mo
29:54.8
Mararamdaman mo yan eh
29:58.2
She gaslights you
30:00.1
She only treats you
30:11.8
Madaming video sa YouTube
30:16.8
Narcissistic mother
30:18.2
I would recommend
30:23.6
Search siya lang yun
30:26.6
Indian woman siya
30:32.3
From that channel
30:33.2
About dealing with people
30:40.3
Ilang minutes na tayo
31:05.4
Medyo naiyak si Salome
31:08.8
Actually naiyak talaga siya
31:16.4
It turns out well
31:19.4
And it seems like
31:21.0
That's what's gonna happen
31:24.2
Kasi natanggap siya eh
31:25.2
Tanggap siya ng mga tao
31:31.6
Kung may nararamdaman siya
31:39.4
People talking behind their back
31:41.1
I don't know how she deals with that
31:43.7
Kaya gusto kong maging
31:47.7
Madami ang gusto itanong sa'yo
31:54.0
Your narcissistic
31:58.3
Gaganda yung usapan
32:04.2
Alam kung maniningil itong si Salome
32:14.5
Watch the interview
32:21.4
Salome and Tony Gonzaga
32:34.2
In Sausawan Podcast
32:49.8
It's okay to promote
33:00.5
Parang sex work is
33:11.7
For your children
33:17.0
Although may mga tao talaga
33:31.2
Pinakang takeaway namin
33:34.4
Kasi may mga hindi naman
33:40.0
They don't even know
33:41.7
What they're talking about
33:47.7
Ako may ilan nung
33:49.3
Mga nakilala kong
33:55.4
Si Salome na lang
33:57.4
Si Salome na lang
33:58.2
You would see the trauma
34:00.2
You would see the trauma
34:10.2
Kasi do you really think
34:14.7
On what she's doing?
34:26.4
I wish only the best for her
34:30.5
Follow the patterns
34:48.3
It will be something that
34:51.0
They would have to
34:54.3
For the rest of their lives
35:07.0
The immense amount
35:13.4
Yung iba nga ayaw
35:29.8
Mas matindi yung damage
35:33.9
Yung mental damage
35:38.1
Na pwede mong makuha
35:50.7
Bago ka mag-promote
35:55.4
Kumbaga parang normalize mo
36:06.4
Some things are not
36:17.5
Nang gusto yung sabihin
36:20.0
That's what I think
36:25.9
Kung mapipigilan yun
36:37.9
I don't give a shit
36:39.1
If you are a sex worker
36:40.3
I don't give a shit
36:44.7
Is dangerous work
36:55.8
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