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Hello everyone! It's Tuesday, May 14 here in Manila.
05:33.7
I'm Karen Davila giving you the head start for the day.
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Our guests for Hot Copy today.
05:39.3
It's wonderful to have him back live here in the studio.
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It's been so long, former Senator Bam Aquino,
05:46.4
as we talk about his prospects for the 2025 midterm elections
05:51.7
and his membership with the Liberal Party.
05:54.6
And later on, we have Rafaela David,
05:57.3
the co-convener of the Atin Ito Coalition.
06:00.6
He'll be joining us for our second Hot Copy.
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We'll talk about their trip on the West Philippine Sea.
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But first, the headlines.
06:09.5
Today's big story is China shrugging off accusations
06:12.6
of reclamation in Escoda or Sabina Shoal,
06:16.4
calling them groundless and fabricated.
06:20.0
House lawmakers eye a parallel probe
06:23.2
on the identity of Banban Mayor Alice Huo.
06:27.0
And the United States sees no genocide
06:31.0
in Israel's war in Gaza.
06:36.8
Aspiring candidates gearing up for next year's midterm polls
06:41.5
with the President's political party
06:43.6
already declaring prospects for another alliance.
06:48.3
Sherry Ann Torres with this special report.
06:52.2
South Cotabato Governor Reynaldo Tamayo,
06:55.2
who leads the administration,
06:57.0
has already disclosed their ongoing talks
07:02.9
with the KCMD, Nationalist People's Coalition
07:05.9
and National Unity Party for an extended alliance.
07:09.7
In 2022, the said parties,
07:12.0
along with Vice President Sara Duterte's Hupong ng Pagbabago
07:15.4
and Partido ng Masang Pilipino of Senator Jingo Estrada,
07:19.5
entered into a coalition with the PFP.
07:22.2
The coalition-called UNITEAM then agreed to fully support
07:25.5
the Bongbong Marcos-Sara Duterte Party.
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The Pagbabago Party, which is the Pagbabago Party,
07:26.8
has already disclosed their ongoing talks with the KCMD, Nationalist People's Coalition and National Unity Party for an extended alliance.
07:27.0
But today, the PFP, which advocates for federalism,
07:31.8
only prefers an alliance with other parties.
07:34.4
The alliances will have a unification for a common cause.
07:42.1
So maybe the cause to support a common candidate,
07:45.4
to support the administration of Bongbong Marcos,
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to support the direction of this administration.
07:53.5
Forty-three percent of the sitting local officials in the country
07:56.8
in these 82 provinces are now PFP members, according to Tamayo.
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Its ally party, NPC, meanwhile, boasts of 842 members,
08:06.4
according to NPC chairman and former Senate President Vicente Soto III.
08:11.2
Soto says they have yet to discuss NPC's coalition status with PFP.
08:16.1
But what's important to them, he says,
08:18.0
is the need to first consult their members on all issues.
08:21.6
PMP chairman Senator Estrada has this to say.
08:24.9
If they want to, why not?
08:26.8
What are your considerations?
08:29.9
To strengthen the alliance, of course.
08:32.5
So that our candidates will have a better chance of winning.
08:40.1
But in the eyes of political and election experts,
08:43.1
political parties in the Philippines do not really have much value,
08:46.9
primarily because they are personality-based.
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Experts say political parties also do not take their platform seriously.
08:54.9
What happens to the alliances?
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The alliances ngayon is purely transactional politics, patronage politics.
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That doesn't help us at all.
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Ang voters doon ay hindi natutulungan.
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It only helps the dynasties.
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Kasi sila lang yung nagbe-benefit eh.
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In an ideal world, according to Lente Policy Specialist Helen Maurin-Graydo,
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political parties introduce candidates to voters through campaign sorties
09:23.8
so they could offer their platform,
09:25.9
which they will use to help them win.
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And they will follow to best serve the country.
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But this is not always the case in the Philippines.
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Makikita niyo naman ng programa ng isang campaign rally.
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It's purely for entertainment.
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Makikita niyo sayawan, kantahan, very spectacular.
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Which should be a discussion on ano po ba ang plano niyo for the next 2, 3, 5, 10, 20 years.
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Former Elections Commissioner Louie Tito-Guias says
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a group needs to have a clear advocacy and candidates
09:55.5
for it to be accredited.
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A group must also be accredited by the Commission on Elections.
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Groups supported by a foreign government,
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and those promoting violence
10:03.9
or aiming to overthrow a government
10:06.1
cannot be accredited as a political party.
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The group must also prove to the Comelec
10:11.1
that it has members
10:12.1
before it can be registered as a political party.
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Guia says efforts to reform the country's political party system
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seem to have failed.
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A view which was shared by Yusinko.
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Ang mas masama pa dyan,
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yung mga personalities,
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nililipat-lipat ng political parties
10:28.9
based on convenience.
10:30.8
Ang nangyayari tuloy,
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parang uniform lang sa basketball
10:37.3
yung political party,
10:40.1
Saan team ba ngayon si ganitong kandidato
10:42.6
sa conference na to?
10:44.4
Political aspirants for next year's polls
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are expected to flood the Comelec offices
10:49.1
from October 1 to 8
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to file their certificates of candidacy.
10:53.0
Familiar names of aspirants
10:54.9
in their political party
10:56.1
will again ring as electioneers.
10:59.0
Experts remind voters
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to study well the platform of would-be candidates
11:03.2
and hold them accountable
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to their campaign promises
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even after the elections.
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Sherian Torres, ABS-CBN News.
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Alright, joining us now on Hot Copy,
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we have with us live in the studio
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and I have to say it's been a while,
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former Philippine Senator Bam Aquino.
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Bam, good morning to you.
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Good morning. Magandang umaga.
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But do you remember the last time
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you were on a political talk show?
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So it's been three years?
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It's been three years.
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It's been three years.
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Yes, we were talking about
11:37.1
the senatorial elections in 2022
11:39.6
and tinanong mo ako,
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sabi mo ano bang plano mo
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we want to unite the opposition.
11:44.9
And that was right before
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Attorney Lenny decided to run for president.
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Bam, are you running again?
11:52.0
And tatakbo ka ba ulit in 2025?
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at handa na rin ako bumalik sa larangan ng politika.
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Handa ako maging boses ng walang boses sa Senado.
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I'm ready and we're preparing for it.
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Okay, what made you decide to run again?
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makikita mo yung bansa natin,
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ang rami mga kababayan natin,
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hindi sila napapakinggan.
12:14.5
Nag-aaway yung mga partido,
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yung pag-focus ngayon sa presyo ng bilihin,
12:18.9
sa taas ng sahod,
12:19.7
hindi talaga siya nabibigyan ng pansin.
12:21.1
And I think more people
12:23.4
who want to bring back the issues
12:25.1
dun sa pangailangan,
12:27.2
need to engage and be part of the political process.
12:29.5
Okay, so pag-usapan natin,
12:31.4
matindi ang talo ng otso-diretsyo noon.
12:36.2
And then, former Senator Laila de Lima announced
12:39.1
that you, Shell Diokno,
12:41.1
and Senator Kiko Pangilinan
12:42.6
would be running all together
12:43.9
in the Liberal Party,
12:45.5
which you're not.
12:47.5
Actually, kami ni Shell Diokno
12:49.0
are not part of the Liberal Party.
12:51.2
Shell and I are part of KNP.
12:53.9
So, kwento ko ng konti,
12:56.0
yung genesis ng KNP.
12:58.8
umalis na ako sa Liberal Party,
13:00.4
but because I was a private citizen,
13:02.0
di na namin siya nilabas sa publiko.
13:06.8
when we were preparing for
13:08.4
VP Lenny at that time to run,
13:13.1
At yung nagbuo nito,
13:14.5
mga young board members,
13:15.8
young counselors,
13:17.0
all of these young leaders,
13:21.0
malalim yung pagmamahal sa bayan,
13:23.3
para may ibang vehicle si Atty. Lenny.
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Na tumakbo in 2022.
13:29.7
she decided to run as an independent.
13:31.9
And after the elections,
13:33.1
nag-usap-usap sila,
13:35.3
I was still advising them,
13:37.1
itutuloy pa ba yung partidong to?
13:40.7
ang laki nang naipakita natin
13:43.1
Hindi man tayo nagwagi,
13:44.7
pero yung paglabas nung tao,
13:46.9
yung klarong paghangad ng tao
13:48.5
for something better in our country,
13:51.2
naramdaman natin yan.
13:52.2
Sayang naman kung mawawala.
13:53.7
And now that we're one year before
13:56.5
and everyone's preparing already,
13:58.5
hiniling nila na maging chairman ako ng partido.
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Pero sino ang nasa KNP?
14:03.4
So, you have civil society, kabataan?
14:05.7
We actually have a lot of incumbents.
14:08.3
We have people like board member Kirby Salazar,
14:11.5
si Councilor Maya Bonko,
14:13.3
Councilor Burns Olivares,
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former Councilor Maybelline de la Cruz.
14:16.5
These are all young leaders.
14:18.5
Sila yung superstar in their own provinces.
14:21.1
At sila rin yung naging provincial heads
14:22.6
nung campaign ni VP Lenny in 2022.
14:26.8
nakasama ko na sa kampanya nung 2022,
14:30.3
and the groups are still there,
14:32.2
Yun yung magandang pangitain dito
14:34.1
is that at the end of 2022,
14:36.9
agad-agad marami sa kanila
14:38.2
nag-organize up ulit.
14:39.9
They organized again,
14:41.2
and they invited me to go
14:42.4
and go all over the Philippines
14:43.6
to meet all the volunteers.
14:46.0
At nakita ko na kahit di natin nakamit
14:48.6
yung gusto natin in 2022,
14:50.5
yung paghangad ng mas magandang bansa
14:54.8
The challenge was,
14:56.1
itutuloy ba natin ito to 2025 and beyond?
14:59.8
And the answer was yes.
15:01.6
Isa itong magandang gawin para sa taong bayan.
15:04.5
And when they asked me to lead the party as chairman,
15:07.7
and now I am the chairman of this new,
15:09.9
the newest political party in the Philippines.
15:12.2
What's interesting is the fact that
15:14.5
most Filipinos have lived
15:16.2
with a Marcos Aquino history.
15:19.0
And here you are,
15:20.3
you are running as senator again
15:22.2
with your former nemesis,
15:24.8
the family's nemesis,
15:26.2
as a sitting president.
15:28.3
Hindi mo ba napag-isipan yun na,
15:30.8
o ba't ako tatakbong senador ngayon
15:32.7
na ang nakaupo si Pangulong Ferdinand Marcos Jr.?
15:35.9
Well, actually, Karen,
15:37.2
sa totoo lang yung paghangad mo na tumulong,
15:40.4
hindi mo talaga masyadong naiisip
15:41.9
sino ba yung nakaupo.
15:43.2
Basta ang intention ko lang,
15:45.1
makatulong ulit sa taong bayan.
15:46.9
Now, if you look at our history,
15:49.0
may President Marcos Sr.,
15:50.6
may Senator Aquino,
15:52.0
and then nung time ni Pinoy,
15:53.1
may President Aquino,
15:54.0
at may Senator Marcos,
15:54.8
who's now the president, di ba?
15:57.2
So baka nga kailangan ng balance in the force,
16:02.2
But that's so interesting,
16:03.5
that when Pinoy was president,
16:06.0
BBM was a senator.
16:07.6
And that was a surprise too
16:09.2
because that was his first term.
16:12.7
But alam mo, honestly,
16:14.4
beyond family names,
16:16.1
ang nakikita ko talaga,
16:17.6
maraming issue yung mga kababayan natin
16:19.8
na hindi nabibigyan ng tamang pansin.
16:21.7
Yung presyo ng bilihin,
16:23.1
pagtaas ng sahod,
16:24.8
our education crisis,
16:25.9
napakaraming issue na kailangang itackle.
16:27.9
And hindi madadali yung mga issue
16:31.5
you believe your voice is needed.
16:34.9
They're very complicated issues.
16:36.6
Hindi silang madadaling i-resolve.
16:38.8
Marami kang kailangan mangain
16:39.9
para makamit mo yung mga kailangan mo makamit
16:41.8
para sa taong bayan.
16:42.9
At kailangan natin ng mga tao
16:44.1
na handang magtrabaho,
16:46.0
handang panindigan yung mga walang boses,
16:48.9
kung kailangan bumanga.
16:50.3
And I'd like to think,
16:54.1
yung iba pang mga,
16:54.8
mga kababayan natin,
16:56.3
na kaya rin nila,
16:57.9
sana tumakbo rin sila
16:58.8
at maging part nitong
16:59.7
political process natin.
17:01.7
So, some political questions first
17:03.6
before we go to the issues.
17:05.2
President Marcos Jr.
17:06.6
is right now consolidating alliances
17:09.6
because, you know,
17:10.9
some analysts have said
17:12.1
there's a proxy war
17:13.2
between the Marcoses
17:14.8
and the Dutertes.
17:16.5
You've seen both of this in history.
17:19.1
Marcos Sr. and the Duterte,
17:21.4
you were a sitting senator then, no?
17:23.9
Pag-uusapan natin ito,
17:25.6
if President Marcos Jr. reaches out
17:31.7
and asks you to be part of the UNITEAM,
17:35.3
where would you stand with that?
17:38.1
Unang-una, Karen,
17:38.8
wala pa namang pag-uusap na ganyan, di ba?
17:40.9
But para sa akin,
17:42.4
kung magkakaroon ng alliance,
17:45.3
Kung ang alliance mo,
17:46.3
para lang sa eleksyon,
17:47.5
nakita natin within one and a half years,
17:51.4
Your analyst earlier said,
17:52.8
para nagpapalit lang,
17:53.8
color ng uniform.
17:55.7
Pero kung may alliance,
17:57.1
para sa talagang kailangan ng taong bayan,
18:01.2
You know, all of,
18:02.4
lahat kami na public servant,
18:04.7
pangalawa lang kami sa pangangailangan ng taong bayan.
18:07.4
And I've shown this already, Karen, no?
18:09.1
During the time of President Duterte,
18:11.2
yung batas para sa libring kolehyo na sinulong ko,
18:13.8
yun ang mahan ni President Duterte.
18:15.5
Implemented during his time,
18:17.1
still implemented now.
18:18.5
Secretary Ralph said,
18:19.6
they will fully implement the free college law.
18:22.1
And nagawa mo yan,
18:23.1
kahit magkakaibahan,
18:23.8
baka yung partido.
18:24.9
So may mga issue tayo
18:26.3
na mas mahalaga sa mga tao,
18:28.8
mas mahalaga sa mga partido.
18:30.7
Kung yan ang batayan,
18:32.7
if we can really move our country forward,
18:34.6
maaangat natin yung bansa natin
18:36.1
dahil magtutulungan,
18:40.0
yung mga alyansa,
18:41.2
base lang sa kapangyarihan.
18:43.0
So if you do win as a senator again,
18:47.1
is it fair to say you'll be part of the opposition?
18:51.4
Ang oposisyon kasi sa Senado, Karen,
18:53.6
depends on your vote for the Senate President.
18:56.3
So hindi mo talaga,
18:57.4
hindi siya necessarily the same
18:58.7
as the opposition in
19:01.5
or in national politics, di ba?
19:03.5
But ito siguro yung mahalaga.
19:05.9
Kung tayo makabalik sa Senado,
19:07.7
ang ipapasin nating batas,
19:09.8
sa pagbaba ng presyo ng bilihin,
19:12.5
pagtaas ng sahod ng mga manggagawa,
19:14.5
at pagsigurado na yung benepisyon ng tao,
19:17.0
makukuha talaga ng tao,
19:19.0
And whether you're in the minority or the majority,
19:22.5
kung yung mga batas mo,
19:23.4
maganda at makakatulong,
19:25.0
gaya ng libring kolehyo,
19:26.4
makakakuha ka ng tulong mula sa iba't ibang partido.
19:29.5
And again, if you're a senator,
19:31.2
you need the president to sign your law.
19:33.0
So I'd like to think,
19:34.6
may mga issue na mas mahalaga sa amin,
19:37.5
at kahit malalim yung mga problema historically,
19:40.4
kung ito para sa bayan,
19:41.9
pwede tayong magtulungan
19:43.0
kung makakatulong talaga ito sa taong bayan.
19:45.1
Okay. So you've talked about
19:47.2
it's really about issues.
19:49.6
Let's go to that.
19:50.5
In the 19th Congress,
19:51.9
this was in 2018,
19:53.4
you spoke against charter change, right?
19:56.5
You asked for the passage of the anti-dynasty law.
20:00.5
The current president,
20:01.5
President Marcos Jr.,
20:03.0
wants changes in the charter,
20:05.6
economic changes.
20:07.5
Sang-ayon ka ba dun?
20:10.0
Some economic changes, yes.
20:12.8
But, well, unang-una,
20:15.1
allowing more competition in the Philippines.
20:17.2
Alam mo naman, Karen,
20:18.0
we talked about this many years ago.
20:19.4
Ako rin yung nagsulong ng competition act sa Pilipinas.
20:22.3
So, yung pagbukas ng ekonomiya natin
20:24.7
para yung maliliit,
20:25.7
mas kaya makipag-kompetensya sa malalaki,
20:27.7
kailangan natin yan.
20:29.0
Para hindi tayo kontrolado ng ilang kumpanya lang
20:31.8
o ilang mga pamilya lang.
20:33.3
So, there are economic changes that we can look at.
20:35.8
Political changes,
20:37.6
hindi ako masyadong in favor.
20:41.6
I might think twice about it
20:43.6
kung uuunahin natin yung anti-political dynasty law.
20:46.6
Kung uuunahin natin yan,
20:48.6
then I think we can look at maybe some of these changes.
20:51.6
kontrolado tayo ng ilang pamilya lang,
20:54.6
yung political system natin,
20:56.6
parang mahirap ibukas yung
20:58.6
konstitusyon natin sa mga political changes.
21:00.6
But then, what makes you optimistic that the anti-dynasty law will ever pass
21:04.6
when in the Senate alone,
21:06.1
you have brothers and sisters there?
21:08.6
You have siblings.
21:09.6
You've had mother and son.
21:11.6
You have mother and son today.
21:15.1
You have family members sitting in the Senate together.
21:18.1
I think it's a law
21:20.1
na whose time has come.
21:21.6
May mga ganyan eh.
21:22.6
May mga batas na maganda pero hindi pa niya oras.
21:26.6
Ito, matagal na dapat itong napasa.
21:28.6
And maybe it will come to a point where
21:30.6
the time has come for the anti-political dynasty law to get passed.
21:34.6
The only anti-political dynasty clause
21:38.6
in any law in the Philippines is in the SK Reform Act.
21:41.6
Sino yung mga nagsulong ng batas na yan?
21:45.6
So sa SK ngayon, hindi ka pwedeng may kamag-anak na kapitan,
21:48.6
mayor, senator, or president.
21:50.6
That's the only law in the Philippines
21:52.6
na may anti-political dynasty clause.
21:55.6
Who pushed for that law?
22:02.6
Lahat galing sa political family.
22:06.6
Yes. So that's in the records.
22:08.6
Between Aquino, Marcos, Binay, and Ejercito,
22:12.6
napasa namin ng SK Reform Act.
22:14.6
And there were others in Congress na galing rin sa mga political family.
22:18.6
Pero at that time,
22:19.6
nakita namin na mahalaga para sa SK,
22:22.6
para gumanda yung SK, magkatotoong reform yung SK,
22:25.6
na ilagay yung anti-political dynasty clause doon.
22:28.6
So ibig ko lang sabihin,
22:29.6
there will come a time na makikita nung mga tao na
22:32.6
kailangan na nating ibukas ang politika natin.
22:35.6
At kung hindi yan gagawin ng mga currently nasa posisyon,
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gagawin nyo ng mga papalit sa kanila.
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So they better do it soon. Diba?
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So all of these laws, Karen, marami nagasabi,
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imposibleng magka-anti-political dynasty sa Pilipinas.
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We have a law that has that.
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Imposible na maging libre yung koleheyo.
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When we were young, parang di mo maisip, but we got it done.
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So these big reforms, kayang gawin yan.
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Kung handa ka magtrabaho, handa ka makinig, handa ka makipagtulungan,
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you can get these big reforms done.
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At yun yung hinahanap ng tao. Hindi away right now.
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Okay. So kapag nanalo ka, ano, what is your priority?
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I mean, this wouldn't be your first time in the Senate if you win.
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Ang priority natin, Karen, is really yung,
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hirap ng buhay ng tao. Paano to, may iibsan.
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Ibaba ang presyo ng bilihin.
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But is that a law? Is that legislation?
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Yes, it's legislation. It's looking at the budget so the agencies can do their work.
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Unang-una, yung pagbaba ng presyo ng bilihin.
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Ang babanggain mo dyan, mga kartel, mga smuggler,
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mga sindikato sa loob at labas ng gobyerno.
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Kung yung korupsyon na yan mawala, ang presyo ng bilihin natin posibleng buwaba.
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Yung pagtaas ng sahod ng mga kababayan natin,
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ito ang babanggain mo dyan, mga malalaking kumpanya, big business.
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Babanggain mo dyan, iba't iba mga grupo na ngayon,
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gustong panataliing, ganyang level lang yung minimum wage natin.
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So para magawa yan, you really have to get everybody together
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and make an effort na talagang gawin natin yan para sa taong bayan.
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If you look at all of the surveys, and when I go around, ito rin siyang sabi ng mga tao,
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Sen. kahit nagtatrabaho ako, eight hours a day, six hours a day,
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six days a week, hindi ko pa rin makuha yung kailangan ko para sa pamilya ko.
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So that equation needs to be resolved.
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Paano tataas yung sweldo, paano bababa yung presyo ng bilihin,
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paano sisiguruduhin na yung benepisyo mo, makukuha mo talaga.
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And if we can focus on that, everybody, kung yan ang focus natin,
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palagay ko yung taong bayan, matutuwa sila at makikita nila,
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kayang umangat ng ating bansa.
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Okay. In 2017, you also called on the government, this was during the time,
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of former President Duterte, to end the brutal killings and rethink the drug war.
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Right. So how would you compare the drug war of former President Duterte to President Marcos' now?
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Oh, very different. Diba? Ibang iba.
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And I think the President and si Secretary Abalos has said na pagating sa pagsubpo sa droga,
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susunod sila sa mga patakaran ng ating mga batas.
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And mahalaga yan. Mahalaga yan.
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So, you know, Karen, again, I'm sure yung tanong kasi dyan, tutul ka ba sa lahat ng ginagawa ng administration?
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Pagating sa drug war, I think they're doing it better now.
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Pagating sa ating foreign policy. And I have to give props to Secretary Guibo.
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He's doing a good job, Secretary Manalo of DFA.
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They're doing their best to really fight for our territory.
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At yan yung mga bagay na palagay ko we have to set aside politics and we should just come together
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to support our country laban sa threat ng China sa ating bansa.
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Okay, before we go to the West Philippine Sea, so the big discussion now is the International Criminal Court or the ICC.
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Should the Philippines become a member once again of the ICC?
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And should President Marcos Jr. cooperate with the ICC?
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I was not in favor of pulling out of the ICC during President Duterte's time.
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So I don't think my position will change. Pero yung isang hindi na pag-uusapan, Karen, ito eh.
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In the end, ang ICC is a process, is a foreign process. What about our local processes?
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Hindi ba yun ang kailangan rin nating hanapin sa gobyerno ngayon?
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Na yung mga pinatay, namatay, mga hindi dapat pinatay, nasaan yung justisya para sa kanila?
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During the time I was in the Senate, kausap ko yung mga nanay ng mga pinatay sa mga urban poor areas.
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At lahat sila mahihirap.
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At napakasakit naman.
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Kung yung justisya para sa kanila makukuha sa HIG, hindi nila makukuha yung justisya dito sa ating bansa.
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So if you ask me, yes, we should rejoin the ICC.
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But shouldn't we demand from our government na maimbistaga ito ng maayos dito sa ating bansa?
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Okay, so those are two things. So right now, the Department of Justice is preparing a briefer.
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For President Marcos Jr. in case a warrant gets issued against certain persons.
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Again, you're looking at a foreign process, diba?
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Nasaan yung local processes natin?
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Kasi namatay sila sa bansa natin, diba?
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So far, dalawa o tatlo pa lang yung nakakasuan, if I'm not mistaken.
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Hindi ba dapat tayo rin mismo, we should have a proper investigation here in our own country?
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Libo-libo yun. Napakarami.
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And when I would meet them before, hindi sila kukonti ng 50, isang daan ng mga pamilya.
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They deserve justice. They deserve to know the truth.
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So we need to bring out that truth, and if possible, we do it here in our country as well.
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Kasi yung ICC, Karen, pag pinasa mo yan sa ICC, and again, I'm in favor of going back to the ICC,
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ang ibig sabihin nun, hindi natin kayang i-resolve yan sa ating bansa.
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And para sa akin, masakit yun.
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Dapat, we should be able to resolve these issues in our own country, sa sarili nating bansa, diba?
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Even before or alongside any process of...
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Okay. The West Philippine Sea, in 2018 also, you called on former President Duterte to fight what is ours in the West Philippine Sea.
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Atin to. The next guest mo ata, diba? Atin to.
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So the irony is, you have the case going, the arbitral ruling, this was brought to court during the time of the late President Noynoy Aquino,
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your cousin, Uncle Cousin.
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And now, President Marcos Jr.
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has exactly the same stand when it comes to the West Philippine Sea.
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I mean, talk about the irony, right?
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When it comes to certain issues here.
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Well, alam mo, ako chichallenge ko yan, Karen.
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I don't think it's ironic.
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Kasi yung ginawa naman ni Pinoy noon, tama eh.
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Yung pag pinaglaban niya yung bansa natin, and ginawa niya yung lahat na magagawa niya in his powers.
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And that was to bring it to the International Court.
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So hindi ibig sabihin nun, just because si President Marcos,
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ay President Marcos na gagawin niyo yung kabaliktaran nun,
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that doesn't mean that that's what should happen.
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In fact, kung tama yun, dapat gawin nga yun.
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So I'm totally in favor of what the current administration is doing pagating sa West Philippine Sea.
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Naninindigan sila.
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It's not easy to fight a big country like China. Hindi madali yun.
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And right now, they need our support to really protect our shores.
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Kailangan natin supportahan yan.
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I'm in the Multisectoral Council of the Air Force ever since I was in the Senate.
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So hanggang ngayon, nasa Multisectoral Council pa rin ako ng Air Force.
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And our military needs that support. Kasi outgunned and out-shipped tayo dyan, diba?
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So they need our support as Filipinos to show na nandun tayo sa likod nila.
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At kapag winawater canon sila, dapat feeling natin, parang winawater canon din tayo.
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Kung yung manging isda, hindi binibigyan ng chance ang mga isda doon,
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dapat ang feeling natin, nawawala rin yung hanap buhay natin.
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And you don't think this administration is going to the extreme?
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I mean, during the time of the late President Aquino,
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there were criticisms that he pivoted to an extreme, which was too anti-China.
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With Duterte, too pro-China.
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Now the criticism with Marcos Jr. is going to too pro-US.
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What are your thoughts?
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Nobody wants war, Karen. Nobody wants war.
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That was one thing.
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That was one thing I think that President Duterte said na sumang-ayon ako, na nobody wants war.
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Pero hindi naman ibig sabihin na maninindigan ka, magkakagera na kaagad.
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So you have to exhaust all means, locally, internationally.
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Also play the game in terms of the world press, diplomacy, and public opinion.
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Hindi lang ng Pilipinas, pero ng buong mundo.
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And of course, the US can help you there.
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Pag-ating dito sa issue ng China. Nobody wants war.
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Nobody wants war. We don't want war.
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I don't even think China, honestly, wants war either.
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Pero kailangan matigas tayo dyan. Matibay tayo dyan.
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Hindi tayo nagbabago-bago ng posisyon.
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Yung mga teretoryong yan, atin yan.
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And we have to be clear with that position.
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At kailangan handa tayong ipaglaban yan sa kahit anumang arena.
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Di ba? Whether it's in media, pag-ating sa world public opinion,
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or sa korte, or sa mga international bodies.
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We have to do that. And we need to support that effort to make sure na klaro yan.
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So clearly, you are not against President Marcos Jr. completely.
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Karen, alam mo, yan kasi yung naging problema nung time ni President Duterte.
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It became just an anti or pro.
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Simplistic. And colors.
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Pati social media naging ganun. Di ba?
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So pag-aling sa amin, masama.
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Masama. Pag-aling sa kanila, masama rin.
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Hindi pwede yun. Di ba?
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Our country right now, nasa proseso tayo ng napakaraming mga kababayan natin ang nagihirap.
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And honestly, yung ganyang klaseng black and white na pag-iisip is not gonna help them.
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We need to be able to see. Ang lente dapat natin, hindi partido mo, partido ko.
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Yung lente natin, ano yung kailangan ng bayan? Ano yung mga katulong sa tao?
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And right now, presyo ng bilihin? Pagtaas ng sahod? Education?
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Pagtaas ng sahod? Education crisis? Walang political dyan.
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Lahat yan, kailangan nating pagtulungan.
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Itong issue ng China, yes, there will be some people who may have a different position.
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But can't we agree na yung teritoryong yan, klaro naman na sa atin yan, dapat ipaglaban natin yan.
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So there are so many issues na kailangan natin magtulungan para gumanda yung bayan natin, para makatulong tayo sa tao.
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And I've always had that position.
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So you're about moving forward, right?
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And removing the simplicity of labeling people to certain colors because it's much deeper than that, right?
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I think, Karen, okay, siguro we will agree to disagree on many things.
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Maraming bagay yan nangyari sa ating kasaysayan, mga alliances, maraming mga bagay na maraming talagang hindi pagsasangayunan.
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Pero yung inahanap kasi ng tao ngayon, ano yung makakatulong sa kanila?
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Paano tayo, paano natin sila pwedeng tulungan?
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And that's a space where I think we need to be able to set aside our own colors and see how we can help people.
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Yun yung inahanap ng tao.
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But that being said, klaro tayo na hindi tayo in favor of charter change.
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And honestly, ang nakikita ko rin…
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Hindi ka in favor of charter change completely?
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Of the political charter change.
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But you know, Karen, I think right now, makikita mo yung kailangan ng tao, hindi siya either dito tayo o dito tayo.
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In fact, ang nangyayari kasi ngayon, dahil nag-aaway na yung dalawang kampo, baka bumalik pa tayo doon eh.
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Na dalawang grupo lang yan.
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And mahalaga, for more people who can really try to bring back the discussion, ibalik natin sa tao.
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Ano ba talaga ang pera ng gobyerno, ang effort ng gobyerno, saan ba ito dapat nakafocus?
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Nakafocus ito sa pangailangan ng tao.
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And I think in that sense, meron tayong espasyo doon na pwede tayong magsama-sama.
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Before we continue, they're going to ask you this as well, because you are running for the Senate.
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Let me ask first this.
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Your reaction to Liberal Party President Edsel Agman saying the Liberal Party is going through the party list route to have a seat in Congress.
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This, as recent voter preference surveys showed, opposition bets trailing behind in the run up to the 2025 elections.
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Actually, maraming mga magsusubok na mag-party list ngayon.
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I think the LP will be running a party list as well. There are other groups.
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I know that there's a coalition right now na West Philippine Sea ang pinaka-issue nila, also running a party list group.
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Because nakikita ng mga grupong ito na kailangan mo ng representation in Congress and the Senate to be able to push for reforms.
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And you support that?
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I mean, the Liberal Party, once the most powerful in the country, goes to a party list?
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And there are many other groups, Karen, na magbubuo ng mga party list.
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And there are many other groups, Karen, na magbubuo ng mga party list.
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So there will be representation for them in Congress.
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Here's a question for you.
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At the end of the day, you carry the Aquino legacy and in fact, you've been said so many times to be like almost the twin of the late, the martyred, Andy Doy Aquino, right?
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The way you look alike.
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So I want to ask you certain things.
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You're not against the administration completely.
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You want to take it issue by issue.
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And yet, there are issues on the Marcos hidden wealth. You've seen him recently in an interview where an Australian journalist confronts him, where he supposedly laughs when asked about plunder issues. He's been asked recently in a press conference why he hasn't apologized to the human rights violations. What are your thoughts on that? What should he do?
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Honestly, Karen, palagay ko, if we want to really move forward, magandang ma-address yun. Magandang ma-address yun. And the President has a few more years to be able to address those issues. I'm hoping, yung sinasabi naman niya, unity, kailangan mag-move forward. Mag-move forward tayo pag na-address na yun.
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Another issue is history. There's been talks on not teaching certain sections of our history, whether it's the issue of the declaration of martial law, the dictatorship, or even recently, some have said, the lessening of the importance of what the late Ninoy Aquino has done. That part of history. What are your thoughts on that?
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Because in other parts of the world, regardless whether it's so dark, history is thought as it is.
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Yes, it should be thought as it is, Karen. Nangyari yung mga nangyari. In martial law, in the past administration, nangyari yung mga nangyari. Hindi pwedeng mawala yun. And hindi lang ako to bilang kamag-anak ni Ninoy Aquino, pero marami mga Pilipino, sa palagay ko, ang maninindigan na hindi pwedeng palitan ng ating kasaysayan. I think we can be very clear about that.
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Okay. Your legacy when you were a senator, you've done a lot for MSMEs, but it's really the state.
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Yes, free college.
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Free college. Some issues now have cropped up and said, dapat ba talagang i-free college?
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Ang UP, let me finish.
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Naiinis kasi ako. Naiinis kasi ako. So, alam mo, lahat ng mga tao nag-asabi, hindi dapat free ang college. Lahat sila, kaya naman magbayad ng college.
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So, eto ang tanong ko. So, ang tanong is UP, right?
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So, this was a discussion, of course, in On Head Start.
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Should UP be free? When? When? Let me first ask you.
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Number one, you have, one, the UPCAT is hard as it is to get into. So, if you come from a private college, you have a bigger chance of passing the UPCAT, right?
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If you're from a private school, Ateneo, LaSalle, whatnot, et cetera. Number two, you have now really wealthy people in UP.
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And they are availing a free college.
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Nung time ko, it was subsidized.
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Okay, kare na. Okay.
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Should you give free college to wealthy kids in UP?
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Okay, UP. We're talking just about UP.
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That's one out of 146 schools. Okay?
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Doon sa 145 schools na natitira, kung tama yung numbers natin, 80% to 90% na mga estudyante dyan, talagang nangangailangan ng tulong.
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So, may mga ilan kasi nagsasabi, tanggalin yung free college dahil sa UP, pointing to one school,
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and wanting to repeal the whole law.
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Diba? So, para sa akin, kalukohan yan. Okay? Kalukohan yan.
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Baka may ibang interest yung taong yan.
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But just UP. Okay?
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In the law, naglagay tayo dyan, students who understand that they can afford, can actually pay full tuition.
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So, there is a mechanism there.
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So, parang konsensya to.
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Yes. So, baka ang tanong, since may issue kayo sa UP, tagay UP ka, diba?
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Oh, may issue ka.
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Then, maybe the alumni should talk to the studentry and to the parents of the students and say,
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kung anak ka naman ng CEO ng kung anumang kumpanya, or anak ka naman ng gobernador o ng whoever,
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magbayad ka naman ng full tuition.
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And that can be done without changing the law.
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There's a mechanism there.
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But that was never discussed.
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It's never discussed, but it's there.
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There's an option to pay full tuition for all the schools.
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For all the schools.
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Pero kasi, Karen, yung kabaliktaran kasi niyan, kung gagawin mo ulit,
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yung iimbestigahan mo, lahat ng mga sudyante,
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yung cost lang noon, nilagay mo nilang sana sa scholarship.
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Ginagawa yun nun eh.
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I remember, umupunta sa bahay mo.
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Ilan yung refrigerator mo, ilan yung TV mo.
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Ilan yung electric fan mo, naka-aircon ka ba?
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Just that program, ang laking stress na noon sa mga magulang.
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Kasi, sabi nila, pwede ba akong bumili ng isa pang electric fan?
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Baka mawala scholarship ng anak ko.
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It's absurd, diba?
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So, maybe for UP, you don't have to change the law.
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So, tingnan na lang yung mga sudyante, kung talagang may kaya ka.
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Siguro, kung naka-BMW ka, pupunta ka ng UP.
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Yeah, may mga ganun eh.
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Pagbayad ka naman ng full tuition.
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But that can be done through the internal workings of the school.
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Hindi na yan kailangan palitan yung matas.
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That's a good one.
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Why wasn't that ever discussed?
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Kayo, kayo yung mga alumni.
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I didn't even know, frankly, that that was a part in the law.
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That you can encourage those who can afford to pay full tuition.
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Because that's a good, that works in the reverse eh.
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What you do is actually talk about the, you appeal to the conscience.
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And my social pressure yan.
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Of the one who can afford.
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Ako, honestly ah.
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Just get, let's start out with 5% of students and their parents to say,
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you know, ito, scholar tayo ng bayan.
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So, we will pay back and we will give back the full payment of our tuition.
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Start with that 5%.
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Lalaki at lalaki yan because of the social pressure.
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So, if you win as a senator, what will be, I know binanggit mo na,
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pagbabaan ng presyo.
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Pagbabaan ng bilihin.
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You've named it all.
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Ano ang magiging advocacy mo ulit?
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What is, is there a law that you want to pet?
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Like you have a pet law?
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It's really cost of living.
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Right now, nararamdaman to ng napakarami nating kababayan.
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Even up to the middle class, nararamdaman na to.
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Na yung kinikita ko, hindi na sapat sa pangangailangan ko.
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Now, what do I want to do in the Senate?
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Lahat ng mga kabataan,
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mag-aral, pwede makapagtapos, pwede makakuha ng trabahong maganda.
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Pangalawa, kung ako handa magtrabaho, yung kinikita ko, sapat para sa pamilya ko.
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Simple lang, di ba?
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Pangatlo, yung tulong ng gobyerno na pupunta sa akin,
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para ako rin kaya kong tumulong sa kapwa-Pilipino ko.
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Let's focus on those three.
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That's what people are looking for.
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Can you help me earn more?
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Can you help me have more benefits para kaya yung mga kulang at kapos,
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kaya kong matawid yun?
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And of course, last,
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presyo ng bilihin.
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Honestly, Karen, malaking part ng presyo ng bilihin natin, korupsyon.
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Kung yan, ma-address natin yan,
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kayang buha ba ang presyo ng bilihin natin,
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mas makakahinga ang taong bayan.
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On that note, I want to thank you for joining me today,
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former Senator Bam Aquino.
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Mobility will be key to recovery
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because we have relaxed some of our quarantine methods
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and we have allowed more transportation to come out.
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That's going to prove to be better for demand.
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If we do follow the health protocols,
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the ability of people to move around will likely contribute better to growth.
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Because of limited mobility, people are also not being able to go to physical branches, etc.
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It further accelerated the adoption of consumers of digital channels.
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We are now being able to provide the services needed by our citizens, by our consumers.
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We are now being able to provide the services needed by our citizens, by our consumers.
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We are now being able to provide the services needed by our citizens, by our consumers.
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We are now being able to provide the services needed by our citizens, by our consumers.
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Jervis Manahan reports.
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Preparations for the second civilian mission in the West Philippine Sea are in full swing.
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Volunteers have been busy preparing the supplies such as fuel and food
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to be delivered to fishermen in the contested waters of Scarborough Shoal.
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This week, a large delegation led by Atenito Coalition will launch their second carrying heart mission.
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This week, a large delegation led by Atenito Coalition will launch their second carrying heart mission.
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This week, a large delegation led by Atenito Coalition will launch their second carrying heart mission.
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Second attempt to conduct a peace and solidarity regatta.
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And this time, international observers will be present.
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But on Monday, Ray Powell, an analyst from the Maritime Monitoring Initiative Sea Light,
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reported that China is sending a huge force to block the civilian mission from reaching the Scarborough Shoal.
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He said at least four Coast Guard and 26 maritime militia ships from China will block the mission.
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And this, he says, is the largest blockage China will send to the Shoal.
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But the organizers from the Philippine mission are unfazed.
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Akbayan President Rafaela David asserted that the mission is a legitimate exercise of the Philippines' rights to travel within its territories.
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She said they will press on with their peaceful mission and they will not be intimidated.
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The Philippine Coast Guard said that while they are not involved in the mission,
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they will ensure the safety of the people joining.
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Our role will only be limited to ensuring the safety and security of those civilians who will be joining the coalition.
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We have to make sure that they will not be harassed or at least injured kung sakaling iharas sila ng Chinese Coast Guard.
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The National Security Council also said they respect the decision to invite international observers.
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It adds the organizers have the freedom to do so since the mission will be done within Philippine territory.
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We have no objections for them to hold this civilian mission because Baho de Masindo will enter our sea.
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They are free to do whatever they do here and I hope they will be successful in giving help.
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Meanwhile, professors from UP Diliman discussed challenges and opportunities in the West Philippine Sea.
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For political science professor Herman Kraft, stronger coordination is needed between government and organizers of such missions.
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For them, it's a patriotic act.
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The problem here is do you really want them to be the front line?
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For me, there has to be more coordination between the government and these kinds of activities by civilian groups.
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The government has the back of the civilian groups.
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The mission is scheduled.
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Starting this Wednesday.
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Jervis Manahan, ABS-CBN News.
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And we're now joined by our co-convener, Rafaela David.
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Rafaela, good morning.
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Hello, Ms. Karen. Good morning to you and to our viewers.
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Alright, so on Wednesday, you will be leaving this Wednesday.
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Can you tell us about the trip?
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Can you tell us about the trip?
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Okay, so again, Wednesday po ang pagsimula ng ating paglalayag.
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We will start early in the morning.
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So ano pa lang, pag silip ng araw, tayo po ay magsisimula sa ating convoy at regatta.
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So magpaparada po tayo around 100 fishing vessels ang magkakasama
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hanggang magpaglabas po tayo sa ating territorial waters at pupunta tayo sa ating exclusive economic zone.
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So ngayon, papatuloy po natin ng ating regatta at mag-replace po tayo ng symbolic markers.
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Na yun po yung nakikita natin kanina sa video na mga boya o mga floaters na nakasulat West Philippine Sea.
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Ating ito, para po halimbawa pag may dumuan ng mga Chinese vessels sa area,
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klaro sa kanila ang ating mensahe na ang West Philippine Sea ay atin.
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At gayon din po, yung isang very crucial mission ng ating magiging supply mission ng ating convoy,
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ay makapaghatibin ng mga ayuda, so ito po ay fuel subsidy at mga food packs,
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dun sa mga manging isda sa vicinity ng Bajo de Naciloc.
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So yun po yung ating mga important mission objectives,
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makapag-abot ng tulong dun sa pinaka-affected na fisherfolk.
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Lalo na po kasi itong ating second mission, talagang we're invoking the spirit of bayanihan ng mga ordinaryong mamamayan
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kung saan magkakapit-lisig tayo sa mapayapang paraan.
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Pinapakita natin ang paninig.
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Pinapakita natin ang paninig ng mga mamamayan sa pambubuling na ginagawa ng China.
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Alright, Rafaela, saan kayo manggagaling at ilang araw bago kayo makarating sa Bajo de Naciloc?
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So ano po yan, kasi depende sa bilis, mga nasa 15 hours more or less yung travel papunta dun sa area.
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So kung bukas po ay maglalayag ng umaga, may mga ilang activities po at ilang stopovers,
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we're expecting po to be there ng the next day na.
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And then, pabalik po, another day yun.
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Pero meron pa po kasi may kaming dadaanan bago pala umuwi, may bonus objective po tayo.
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Susubukan po ng volunteers natin na makapag-witness ng pangingisda ng ating mga kasamang mangingisda noon.
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At makapag-volunteer dun sila at matry nila kung ano ba ang buhay mangingisda sa ating West Philippine Sea.
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So we're expecting po makabalik tayo ng Friday na po ng mga gabi na po yun.
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Okay, anong mga barko ang gamit ninyo, Rafaela?
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So dun po sa regata natin, ang kasama po natin ay meron po tayong five main commercial vessels, commercial fishing vessels.
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Ito po yung parang nungupangulong o yung malaki po ito na fishing vessel na kaya ang 20 tons.
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Tapos po may mga deep sea fishing vessels tayo. Ito yung medyo mas maliliit na mga fishing boats.
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Nasasama mga around 100 po.
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Maglalayad sa ating convoy.
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So yun po ang ating mga kasama, mga fishing boats po yung ating magiging, mag-take part dito sa ating convoy.
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Okay. Sinabi ka nga po sa TV Patrol na inaasangan ninyo na mahigit sa 20 Chinese vessels,
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whether civilian or part of their Coast Guard, ang posibleng humarang sa inyo. Tama ito, ma'am?
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Yes. Yung mga ilang mga observers, mukhang yun.
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So we're expecting na may Chinese presence doon. In fact, when we've been planning this, kasama naman yun sa mga scenarios na ating pinagkahandaan.
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Oo. E anong plano ninyo? Halimbawa, i-water cannon kayo?
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Nako. Ang klaro po sa amin, hindi po tayo pupunta doon para magpa-water cannon.
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At hindi rin po tayo pupunta doon para mag-side-seeing ng mga Chinese vessels o magpag-ipigan sa kanila at patintero.
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Klaro po sa atin ang ating mga objectives.
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Makapag-regata, peace and solidarity regata sa ating EEZ, makapag-place ng symbolic markers,
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at gayon din po makapagbigay ng ilong sa mga mangyay isda.
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So, iang pong banta ng water cannon, while we consider it at kasama po yun sa ating mga scenarios,
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ay we will do our best sa lahat po ng ating mga risk management scenarios at plans.
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Ay hindi po natin papaabutin.
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At tayo ay magpapaambun at magpapa-water cannon sa China.
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Okay. Because the latest information that we have right is our fishermen are only allowed to fish.
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I don't know if this is still what's happening right now outside Bajo de Masinloc, outside Scarborough Shoal,
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but within Scarborough Shoal, it's at least two Chinese vessels that are stationed there.
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Tama ba yun, Rafaela?
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Yes, regular na po nga yung Chinese vessels doon simula pa noong 2012 na nagkaroon ng standoff.
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Kaya po yung mga mangyay isda natin, na dati madali sa kanilang makapasok,
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ngayon ay nandoon na lang sila sa vicinity, sa labas,
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or minsan, minatry po nilang pumesto doon sa may bandang parang kwetan, doon sa bandang likod, noong shore.
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Kasi nga doon sa parang opening niya, at nakita naman po siguro natin yun sa mga pictures at mga video,
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ay nilalagyan regularly ng...
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mga floaters para harangan yung mga mangyay isda makapasok habang doon sa loob,
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may nakastation naman ng Chinese vessels regularly.
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At hindi po yung talagang nagpe-prevent sa ating mga mangyay isda na makapangisda.
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At hindi po sa gitna, ano po yun eh, hitik po yun sa Yamang Dagat,
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ang mga kwento sa amin talagang doon, may gandang mangyay isda sa loob.
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At ngayon, doon nga po, hindi naka-access yung ating mga mangyay isda sa...
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Alright, well, we wish you the best of luck.
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Mag-ingat kayo, Rafaela.
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And I do hope you come back on Head Start.
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Please tell me about the trip. Thank you.
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Salamat, Ms. Karen. Magandaong naga.
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Okay, saludo sa inyo, sa ating mga mangyay isda.
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Huling tanong na lang, will you be escorted by the Philippine Coast Guard?
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We've informed them po of all of our activities para kasama sa kanilang pagpaplano
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in ensuring the safety of Filipinos in the area,
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ay muconsider po nila dun sa magiging mga regular patrols nila.
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At mukhang nalagsabi na rin naman po ang TCG that they will be...
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...assign a vessel there.
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Yung mga detalye po siguro maging nang-convene sa iyo.
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Alright, on that note, thank you so much.
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Ating ito, co-convener, Rafaela David. Thank you.
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Thank you, Ma'am Karen.
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And that's Get Start today.
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I'm Karen Andavila. Thank you for watching.
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You can play back this episode on the ANC YouTube channel.
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Stay informed and stay with ANC.
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